Filtering and Worldviews


So this afternoon, I was surfing this grand World-Wide-Waste of time that is the internet, and somehow came across John Cleese’s blog. Like, really, the man himself has a blog. I thought all my Christmases had come at once, and was instantly setting myself up for a great afternoon of relaxing at home with John.

After watching this video of him showing a guest around his cottage, I moved on to some of his podcasts. Here’s just one to whet your appetite: http://pcnworld.net/jc/john_cleese_podcast_32.mp4.

I liked the three or so comedy podcasts so much, that I decided that I would fork out the horrendous sum of US$1 to download his recent Headcast. It was not at all what I had been expecting, but it was thoroughly interesting. So much so that I think it really is worth the download. And interesting enough to make a few notes on.

Cleese starts by giving an example of “a scene where Gallileo was standing there with members of the church and Gallileo was saying ‘Please look into my telescope and you will see the craters on the moon.’ And the church guys were saying ‘Well we don’t need to look into your telescope, because we know there are no craters on the moon.’ And he said ‘Yeah but if you will just look, you’ll see them,’ and they said ‘Well we don’t need to look because we know that they’re not there.'”

Cleese goes on to begin his discourse on filtering and evaluating evidence, motivated, as he says, by the fact that it wasn’t actually members of the church that said these things to Gallileo, it was “academics, sort of scholastic philosophers”.

Cleese at 9:02 – The old idea of people ignoring evidence, which is we know everybody does it – that we do it ourselves – we kind of think that scientists are these very rational people who, um, examine, ah, evidence, and, and, explore hypothesis and theories in a very sort of calm, unattached, distant way. No emotion involved, you know, just intellect. And that of course is nonsense. Because even scientists are deeply emotionally attached to the paradigms that they happen to believe in.

Cleese then gives an example of a friend Stan Groff, who had a conversation with cosmotologist Carl Sagen about cardio-surgen Michael Sabom’s research and book about studies into near-death experiences of his patients. Groff tells Sagen about a particular incident of one of Sabom’s patients’ near death experience where the patient was able to recount in intricate detail the entire surgery procedure while he was incapacitated and unconscious during the operation.

Cleese explains that Groff asked Sagen how he would explain this phenomenon based on his materialistic world view. That is, how can he explain the research and studies outlined in cardio-surgeon Sabom’s book.

At 11:45 of the Headcast, Cleese continues to read from Groff’s text about his conversation with Sagen.

After a long pause Sagen said assertively ‘This, of course, did not happen…there are many cardio-surgeons in the world, no one would have known this guy so he made up a wild story to attract attention to himself. It’s a PR trick.’ (Groff laments that) Carl’s last words seriously undermined the respect I had for him and I realised that his worldview was not scientific, but scientistic. It had the form of an unshatterable dogma that was impervious to evidence.

Cleese at 12:50 – To what extent do we all do that? I think we do it a lot. I think we basically build up our beliefs without really examining them, when they are really quite young. We kind of think that we’re…Conservatives or Socialists…we’re Republicans or we’re Democrats. Or we decide we believe in God or we don’t believe in God. And then for the rest of our lives, we tend to filter all the information that’s coming back to us, all the feedback, so that we only take in the bits that confirm this view that we already have, and we carefully get rid of all the bits that contradict the view that we already have.

Cleese goes on further for the remainder of the Headcast speaking about his views on the filtering of information by our education, media, and society. He gives examples of battles in wartime that school children are taught in differing countries (only the victorious battles for each respective country are taught in each respective country), he talks about the Opium wars in China, and also talks at length about Dick Chaney and Iraq, and how he actually seem to believe in the worldview they propose.

He also speaks about “the biggest oxymoron of our time; Fox News.”

This great podcast made me think about a conversation I had far too late last night with a man I only just met the other day, about evolution. He mentioned something that I had never heard before, the gist of which was that one of the major reasons that evolution does not hold up as a strong concept of how the world came about, at least from a biological perspective, is because there has never yet been any confirmed case of a genetic mutation creating new genetic information, which, as I understand from talking to my friend, is what must be assumed should we consider that life forms changed over the years into new, vastly different life-forms.

Now I am not even remotely capable or knowledgable enough to be able to hold my own in a discussion about the evidence for and against evolution. The reason I bring it up however, is because The John Cleese Headcast made me consider the following…

What’s the most well-known alternative to evolution (as believed by many)? God made it. Now, this idea is not acceptable to those who have a worldview of ‘matter is all there is’ in the universe. For one holding to that worldview, that explanation is too simplistic.

If we are to bring me, Rob Thomson, into the conversation at this point, I have to admit that I want to believe that evolution is not the answer, because it gives more credence to my prefered worldview of a creator creating all there is. And how much of my wanting to believe something is actually holding me back from critically and open-mindedly evaluating evidence for and against so many of the issues that we face everyday as humans (not just existential questions like the origin of species). And since my identity is part-and-parcel with my worldview, I have often in the past, and still do, do exactly what John Cleese alluded to in his Headcast:

I think we basically build up our beliefs without really examining them, when they are really quite young. We kind of think that we’re…Conservatives or Socialists…we’re Republicans or we’re Democrats. Or we decide we believe in God or we don’t believe in God. And then for the rest of our lives, we tend to filter all the information that’s coming back to us, all the feedback, so that we only take in the bits that confirm this view that we already have, and we carefully get rid of all the bits that contradict the view that we already have.

So what do I do?

I think the answer is that I have to think for myself.

I have to accept what my experience (especially the last two years of travelling) is telling me about the world. That is, that my upbringing, my culture, my way of life, my worldview, is not universal.

And at the very least, I have to be sensitive to that fact that I am not the center of the universe.


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5 thoughts on “Filtering and Worldviews

  • Heather

    Wow! I find the following statement very profound:

    I think we basically build up our beliefs without really examining them, when they are really quite young. We kind of think that we’re…Conservatives or Socialists…we’re Republicans or we’re Democrats. Or we decide we believe in God or we don’t believe in God. And then for the rest of our lives, we tend to filter all the information that’s coming back to us, all the feedback, so that we only take in the bits that confirm this view that we already have, and we carefully get rid of all the bits that contradict the view that we already have.

    I find this profound because I don't think most people are aware that it's true. I don't think I realized how biased my thinking can be until reading the above statement. Thinking about how un-biased and open-minded I strive to be (read: I feel that I am a VERY open-minded individual) and yet recognizing that I am still guilty of not questioning things further, makes me realize how much an average individual falls victim to this biased view of building their beliefs. For example… I'm a Liberal because my parents are liberals and thinking "liberally" is the "right way to be". Who cares about the candidate that's running in the election… I must vote "Liberal"!…)

    The same goes for where and how we are brought up in church. As children we are naive, and we believe everything that we are taught or told. Although this is a sweeping assumption, I would hazard a guess to say that strategies used in Sunday School present the information like everything is FACT, and children are not given the opportunity or encouraged to ask questions. As a result, it creates a group of close-minded individuals. And it is the close-mindedness of Christians that scares so many non-Christians away because they naturally do not want to associate with them.

    I think this reinforces the fact that questions are oh-so-important… existing in an environment where we are able to ask them, and actually being taught to ask them.

  • Jean

    I had a similar sort of an epiphany a few years ago (when I was about your age i spose) when I realised that noone knows everything – in fact everyone just holds opinions, some well-informed opinions, others not.

    Maybe everyone comes to this point sooner or later although I have met people who have not made it to the next step, which is that "most of the things I think I know are also opinions and therefore I shouldn't act as if I have all the answers". Also, "if everyone else is biased, so am I".

    Having said that, I believe there is Truth out there. Not everything is relative, or a matter of opinion, cultural bias or upbringing. We are taught that there is no truth, it all depends on your point of view – but I believe there are some things which are black and white. There was a beginning, there will be an end, and there is a point to it all. Also, John 14:6.

    On the subject of beginnings, there is a growing group of scientists who have rejected evolution and have turned instead to the theory of Intelligent Design – not all believe God made everything but they do hold that something designed this place, it's just implausible that something so complex could have come about by chance.

    My two cents

    Jean

  • Scott Wayland

    Ah, this opens the can of infinite regression. If God made everything, who or what made God? For me, this is totally unsatisfying line of thinking. I choose to accept mystery, the unknown that will always be part of the experience of life, and that some things we can never explain or know with our VERY limited minds. But we can know a lot. Do some serious reading in geology and biology. Don't let pundits offer opinions. You're better off reading what the scientists have actually discovered and how. It's been a long, slow climb out of the swamp of ignorance, and we still have a long way to go. You'll find, however, that the number of scientists who believe in intelligent design (creationism) is extremely small relative to the number of scientists out there. Of Nobel Laureates, for example, it's way less than 10%.

    This subject fascinates me, and I should probably shut up now! One thing I've discovered is that the history of science is one of constant battle with those who don't want to know, Galileo being a good example. Are the evolutionists the new Galileo? Maybe, although overwhelming majority of the scientific community has already decided on the issue. As we move through time, the more we know takes us (all humans) further and further from the center. No one knew about microorganisms, yet they, in some real ways, rule the planet. No one knew about planets, yet we inhabit one of many billions. It's all so wonderful and fascinating.

    Oh, read more Sagan before you cast him off! 🙂

    Enjoy the journey, mate. Skating the globe was the easy part.

    Scott

    PS: A couple of cools books in this general area: Coming of Age in the Milky Way, by Timothy Ferris, and The Sleepwalkers by Arthur Koestler. Great books!

  • Andrew McCarthy

    I've been an keen reader of the blog since the start but yet to post a comment, please please keep it up. I think Ive been going through the same "life" thoughts over the 2-3 years, and Im still thinking hard.

    Anyway, the reason I posted was about evolution. I never really thought about it for the same reasons you have but only 2 weeks ago the BBC aired a great documentary which seems to sum it up very nicely. It has helped me and I hope it does for you to.

    Charles Darwin and the Tree of Life

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZv1Z4X0sgw
    (part 1)

    Good luck.